I am willing to overlook the poor paint finish and even the loose stock (could probably shim it to prevent wobble), but I'm not too sure about the fact that it can't maintain air pressure for an extended period. I recently purchased my 392 from pyramid and have been absolutely delighted with it. Good question. 6 pumps at 20 yards.25 shots to zero in,with open sights.This will do until Baker Airguns gets my scope mount to me.Nice feel and balance.Pumping is a chore, but I like the results. Will it kill a raccoon and a grey fox if they are in very close range? The bolt doesnt lock solidly like a firearm bolt does. thanks for the help bb, i really apreciate your knowledge and understanding. Should I store it with a pump or two of air in it? What should i do if i get a jammed pellet? would crosman premiers be accurate with the shadow? It is single-shot action so you can shoot only 1 shot at a time. This air rifle is very quiet compared to my RWS Diana 45 spring-piston and seems to hit much harder. That is just air filling up from the suction effect after rod gets past air hole. For the very low price that you pay for this air rifle, it is a very well built gun. You should get some books about sights and read what has been done over the past 200 years. Only time will tell. As others have said, the cheek piece on the stock puts your line of site way too high to shoot comfortably. When the high-pressure air hits the bolt, it tries to thrust it backwards, but the O-ring slides up out of its seat and seals the air, stopping the movement. It will last for decades if you do. Most homes keep a can of 3-in-1 for lubricating the hinges when they squeak. I plan to use the Weaver B-square scope base for the Benjamin blue streak and accushot 2 piece 1 weaver rings. Somehow smoothing it out would defeat the purpose. Both scopes are ideal for me since I usually stick to shooting squirrel and plinking beer cans. Six pumps on leverMy best grouping while I held firmly on the pump lever was 4 and 2/16 inches (average 3 and 15/16 inches). Yesturday, I sighted in (at 20 yards) using the basic crosman field pointed pellets from walmart, and the crosman destroyers. The bolt doesnt slide back exposing the breech, but it would if I pulled on it. You cant kill a squirrel deader than dead. Go with the Air Venturi for the additional strength. Please try again. But it can valve lock if pumped too much and the modern triggers are not much better than the 1400 trigger was. -Price. 's advice about using Pelgun Oil will keep your gun shooting for decades. I was pretty excited to try out a more expensive pellet gun than I had ever owned, but this one is disappointing. Though my very first, out of the box, groups were as tight as you said theyd be (shot at 10M), they were just a bit high and right. The buttstock is built far to high to get any kind of sight picture. His business card says Benjamin, Sheridan and old Crosman model 140/1400 pneumatic air rifle repair. He puts them back to factory specs. The 392 model in the .22 caliber is capable of sending a traditional lead pellet at 685 fps (alloys around 800fps) and is rated at an impressive 14.9 FPE . Sorry about the typo. If you live in a sparse population area, this is not an issue at all. BB, OK, I understand that. This is really highly accurate gun for under 50 yards. Does having the peep sight closer to the eye improve the peep sight in any way? I think its too light for a woodchuck or raccoon, but a perfect shot would work. I decided to exchange it after checking for and discovering more run away pellets with open sights. I really like my Benjamin 397, but I need better sights. Some pneumatics require cocking before pumping. An example of data being processed may be a unique identifier stored in a cookie. Yes to the Bug Buster. The Benjamin has laid to rest many pests and even taken game as large as racoons. Ill be gettin premiers for my rifle, cant find the jsb pellets, so what would be the next best in your own opinion? I would recommend the Daisy 22SG for two reasons. Either after the shot, or after cocking/loading,You just do it!!!! its also a no go in the classifieds. And the old gun is slimmer than the new one. now there is no pressure in the pump, i tried to unistall it but i dont have a owners manual , if somebody has one please let me now my e mail is ivanier@hotmail.com thanks, First off, this is a suggestion, i would wait for bbs advice, Ive only had my benjamin for a few weeks , ok, bb has suggested (to people with problems with their pump) two people who fix benjamin/sheridan rifles, they are George Pena and Rick Willnecker. I'm looking at this configuration as an indoor & backyard trainer for long range marksmanship, including reticle range estimation and wind speed estimation. You will see Manualsamong other things. Is the scope the problem??? Even some very expensive precharged rifles have bolts that move when they are fired. It has been an intense 24 hours of education to this point. Made in the USA. If I got the Scuba Refill clamp would I just find a dive shop or would I need to buy my own tank? That being said, Im a scope fan and have found the intermount setup to be sturdy enough. (For more on how to choose the right air gun caliber for your game, see this post.). I was just curious with well placed shots of course, what type of hunting capabilites could the 397 handle within the 10-20yard range. I bought my Benjamin in 1964. I have a Benjamin Franklin 342, .22 cal. Did you know there is an active discussion taking place on the current blog. Hard Air Magazine Online Privacy Statement, Making The Guinness World Record Longest Air Rifle Shot. Thanks a lot.-Bob. I have this fairly well planned out in my own opinion, but this is just a prototype. I cant recommend any sources in the UK, but you might contact this man: Forgive me if this is common knowledge (Im already thinking about a second gun and I havent yet bought my first), but would a Benjamin 397/392 offer repeatability at the number of pumps needed to generate 10-meter I velocities? But when you get used to it, it will become second nature and you can do it without a second thought. Benjamin Sheridan Model 392 .22 Caliber Black Mfg# 392 $ 234.08 $ 173.89 Add to cart Category: Air Rifles Description Reviews (0) Description This .22 caliber multi pump pneumatic features a sleek and lightweight American hardwood Monte Carlo stock and fully rifled brass barrel. Start by taking a medium sized flat screwdriver and place the edge in this groove, against the front clip as shown in pictures #2 and #3. Flip the gun on its back. (interesting little spring piston guns where the piston surrounds the barrel). However, can you advise on windage adjustment? It should be quite accurate. that can also replace any parts that have been over-stressed by over-filling. OK BB, Heres my latest finding on pellets. Make the final ten shots 8 strokes each. My advice to others is to just snug them on firm, dont over tighten them, and treat the rifle gently Use the proper tools too. It needs two-piece rings. If so, its your best bet. The stock is nicely sculpted in the classic American style that suits most shooters. we have taken various small sppons and bent the handles around poles that we put at different ranges, for the rest of the afternoon I shot 13 times at the small soup spoon at 20 yrds and hit it 13 out of 13 times with the open sights (that I never adjusted), My friend had initially boohooed a pump gun but was really impressed with how good looking and accurate it was, but mainly how powerful it was for some pump gun as he put it. Adjust the elevation until you hit the target. The 392 is the .22 caliber version of the gun, while the 397 is the .177. Thats what Id thought, but since the manual didnt specify, I thought Id check with experience. its a petty good idea how he did it.is he selling the kit he used to accomplished that,just wondering. Id stay away from that model. So far Ive just used oiled patches and quick-clean pellets. With a good hit, your rifle is more than enouigh. Either caliber will work for you and there wont be enough difference to see. I understand why you state that your opposition to mounting these rifles because of the pumping issue, but Ive come up with a suggestion that my help others out. Now the rifles are essentially the same. I have heard good things about the RWS 94. First of all, I have been using .22 Crosman Wadcutters. Over the years, we've gained a sterling reputation for crafting rugged air guns that are both functional and beautiful. Pelletier said Its a Benjamin, not a Benjamin Franklin. The screws and holes are already there. Having never seen a hardwood pellet gun, and with the looks of it I have to have one. Development in the woods nearby drove hundreds of rats in all directions. Shoot for the brain and only as far as you can hit a quarter every time. I pulled my old, old Crosman model 1 out of the attic and got re-addicted to pellet guns before it lost compression (in the rear seal, not the pump arm seal. Any info you have would be most appreciated. If you are not a fan of plastic guns then this is definitely a great choice for you . This posting is one of the all-time most popular ones and many like you have told us they love their 392 or 397. i ordered a c9 blue streak on sunday and was wandering if 20 cal is enough knock-down power at 30 yards with a well placed shot, also i have the 14.3gr cylindrical pellets. Only in a gun store that carries a wide line of airguns. I wish it was still around. is this normal? LOLs Will using a heavier/tighter pellet like the Beemans and Gamos I mentionned break in the barrel faster? I should note that for the purpose of this post, I did attempt to also reattach the sight, but I quickly gave up because it seems far more difficult than removing it. So the crosman isnt even a candidate? bb,to kill a raccoon should i use a heavy pellet and a head shot for an efficient and humane kill, or a predator pellet for penetration? Very very accurate with open sights. You could call them to see if they can fix your problem, or if your benjamin is new you could probably send it back to crosman for repairs, to find where to send the benjamin for repair you should call crosman at 800-724-7486. The bolt doesnt hold in the closed position either, with a tendency to rotate half loose while handling the rifle. Questions are what Im here for. Lets make haste slowly, so you get what you want on the first go-round. Pump on! Either way I will try one of them. Your rifle ALWAYS diesels. Its like a flintlock rifle that takes longer to get ready, so the shooter takes extra care with the shot. My wife got it as a gift for me. Nary a .22 round in the houseOhum, well, the .177 is more popularand when (if) we do order them(.22) theyre gone the day we put them out. Read this page of the 392 manual online: Thanks for your help. 2. Id really like the 392, but im pretty sure i cant get one. I suspect that it is, but I dont know for sure. The last time she appealed to my basic caveman nature, I went out and bought a bigger sailboat. I dont recommend scoping a 372 or 392. All three guns are more powerful than the 22SG, which is primarily why I am recommending them. I read on reviewcentre.com that the crosman mounts & scopes are not very good, and the B-square mounts work better with the 392. You are getting about 600 f.p.s. Get the book, so you know better what to look for. She should be able to handle four or five pumps as well. Not only does the gun shoot like new, he didnt mess up the vintage finish on a significant collectible while he did the work! Just keep the distances and the size of the game reasonable. Well, the next five were barely in a three inch group at about 30-40 feet. i tried to go farther but i live in valleys, and the wind starts to pick up the farther i go which made my pellets curve off target and i decided to rest and eat something for a little bit. The peep sight is better than either, in my opinion. If you are talking about a small house rat, five pumps should do the trick without over-penetration. And of course, holding the muzzle out and away from me. Messaged the seller and got no response. What you need to do is select all of your comment and copy it before posting. If you mount the scope with short eye relief, the pellet loading action becomes the pain because the scope gets in the way while you do it. New, All-weather synthetic Stock and fore grip Monte Carlo styling Since the Talon is light weight which would help me with my injured back and abdomen I wouldnt want to add a lot of weight with the scope. [url]http://www.mac1airgun.com/steriodags.html[/url]. It'll probably be sometime next week when I get it - will post some pictures, targets, etc when I can. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. I forgot to ask you what caliber Talon SS should I get and what scope would you recommend ? Birds tend to be tougher than bunnies because feathers tend to be like armor. Last. Not only does the gun shoot like new, he didnt mess up the vintage finish on a significant collectible while he did the work! Im not sure if its because I am used to spring guns, but it is just too timeconsuming, and cumbersome for me. Thats just a B-Square 17010 Weaver scope base. EAN: 011482000709 Item ID: 392 More from the manufacturer. What you are telling me is that both knobs have been rotated many TIMES to bring the reticle and striking point of the pellet together. Looked alot at Mac 1, but got the Talon SS W/ 24barrel also, thanks again for your advice on that one. Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:07 am . i know i get the 4th tin free but is it worth it to buy 3 tins? Its sealed by an O-ring. The 392 variable pump is 22 caliber and it's a single shot rifle. Got a giggle out of it, but we wont be doing that anymore!! A Benjamin 397 isnt THAT loud, but it is certainly MUCH louder than the Gamo Shadow 1000. I was out of the office until today. ($). I do have a concern with jarring the scope by the constant pumping, so I put a piece of 1/2 X 1/8 weather stripping on the inside of the fore arm stock. Heres something, the barrel of my 392 had black paint in the end that I removed with q-tips and nail polish remover ok Ive got plenty of time on my hands. Merry Christmas. Whats the difference between pellgunoil and weblube? sorry but one more question. Cooking oils are not good for gun lubrication because they dont have the viscosity you need. Crosman bought both companies years ago and the two rifles have slowly morphed together into essentially the same gun. It doesnt have much velocity like the.177 pellet but it is more stable on the way toward the target. ),No Way,I want a real gun,shes a country girl. And, NO, an IZH 61 SHOULD NOT be used on animals! I am having a hard time picking up the iron sight against the hardwoods. So is this a good practice to follow? Pyramyd Air is the largest airgun store in America many times larger than all other airgun dealers combined. The finish on my C9 was matte black as opposed to the shiny finish on the 392. The Benjamin 392 matched all of the the criteria I had for the prefect rifle, except for one. The steel barrel doesnt wear in human terms. my rear sight is missing and i think it would be good just to have in case. My questions is this, whats the best way to clean these brass-barreled guns? Would you choose the Air Venturi or B-Square intermount? Rick is another guy who has been doing this for several decades, and hes very methodical in his work. Im confident that a shot to the head on rabbits with a .177 caliber pellet rifle will kill them. so low that the front sight is just below the slot in the rear site. If I were to buy (and I might) then I would like to buy one or two of each and test them out. And, do I have to push or pull the whole sight fixture after Ive adjusted the screws? Terms of Use | Which intermount is better for this rifle, the B-Square or the Air Venturi? Any information would be great. Most of what I will say about the 347 (the .177-caliber version of the gun) also applies to the .22-caliber model 342. I liked the fact that they slid into the breech without any forcing. I dont want to put that much into it. Were they discontinued in wood stock form? for X-mas in 1976 as a 9 year old. I adjusted the stop-screw up, and that helped out a good bit. Try JSB 15.8-grain Exacts and your accuracy should improve. I believe that is the problem. Is the buttstock, its terrible! ql. Thats enough for crows, but too light for raccoons and foxes unless the shot is perfect. For quite some time, we have offered a proprietary Baker Airguns Benjamin 392/397 scope mount for the 39X series of guns. I know which ones I want, now. Great gun, no comparison to the cheap plastic air rifles. You cant do better than brass for a pneumatic barrel! My range in the back yard is set up at 10, 20, and 25 yards. I would like to know which is a better rifle.crosman 1400 or benjamin 392 and why? 4.4 out of 5 stars 9 product ratings Expand: Ratings. Air gun 101: What is a PCP air rifle? Thanks, i just set out pop cans about 25 yards or so and can hit them about 2 out of 3 times. Im saving the bulldogs and pointeds for the sand bags!!! But they do ship fast, so the price doesnt seem high to me, its just that thats ten more bucks I have to come up with. I am not sure what to do now though. I think your rifle either isn't cocking or you have it valve locked. If I could get two bottles and take them to a dive shop periodically that would seem like the best option for me. Radical state laws are changing which airguns are being producedThanks to laws in states like Michigan, where all air rifles over .18 caliber are considered to be firearms, the big box stores like Wal-Mart dont stock the .22 air rifles any more. I used to have a Sheridan Blue Streak when I was youngmany, many moons ago . i also wanted to know how to get the free shipping. Welcome to the blog. Thanks BB for taking the time to answer so many questions. I am a happier man since I discovered pyramydair and your blog. This is even with the elevation screw adjusted all the way out until it isnt in contact with the metal below. My curiosity was piqued and I began to investigate all types of airguns. Can you recommend any particular blog on the 3/8 inch dovetail rail mount installation? Do you have these problems? I trust Ill be far happier with this decision! The average velocities of Benjamin 392 over Chrony test using 8 pumps are : The maximum velocity for this gun is 685 FPS ( about 209 meters per second). It makes shooting the gun nearly impossible. I was shooting at 25 yards, but maybe that was too far for these pellets (and me!). i showed her the 392 on the web and it was the same one! It can shoot lead pellets up to 685 fps and alloys up to 800 fps. I have a Benjamin model 342 Air Rifle in need of repair. The groups will come and go. Unable to add item to List. I have seen one site claiming they have been discontinued. Raden1942 Jul 18, 2021 Jump to latest Follow Reply Raden1942 Member Feb 15, 2018 1,757 51 California, United States Jul 18, 2021 #1 Hey guys I just held the 392 with synthetic stock and I hated it. But It cannot be too loud. I dont know anything about air rifles but have a need for one to shoot crows, foxes, raccoons as mentioned before. or is circular more easily drilled, and that is why factories do that? You must put your cursor over that window and click once to be able to write in it. would u use this gun for squirrels and rabbits? I plan on using the open sight and not mounting a scope on this rifle.It did need some cleaning up from the box, the metal needed a good rub down and I lightly oiled the stock and rubbed it down and now it is beautiful. Also, money isnt really an issue here, Im willing to pay a little more for better quality. I mounted the installed the bsquare system and mounted my 3-932 leapers scope to it. Thanks for your quick response, I will probably purchase the 392. Is this dropping air pressure normal or is my rifle defective? The Benjamin 392 has aloudness level from medium to high. TThanks for the advice! Better to select one good range (20 yards) at which the gun shoots flat for a distance (20-27 yards on 8 pumps) and use holdover at the other ranges. Here is where to get it fixed: Rick Willnecker in PA. 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